[QUOTE="Flosstradamus, post: 81626, member: 8643"]They don't qualify for an NPL because they accept donations. NPL stands for Non-Profit License. IF they falsely applied for an NPL then they can lose their TS forever by getting blacklisted by Teamspeak. Also you are right about their boxes. The 1k/Month is ridiculous. The more popular servers that have 4-6 servers pay at most $300 a month for their dedi's. Like Cen said their TS is pennies and the website hosting is super cheap too.[/QUOTE] This is where the NPL has some funky loopholes, TS doesn't care what you use the TS for its what you register it to. You can register the NPL to one domain while using it for something else, as long as the original domain or "organisation" you registered it with doesn't ask for donations or have advertising listed upon its self you're free to use the license however you feel fit. Think of it having the license for X but Y uses it instead of X, the TS legally has to be bound to X but you can get away doing Y TS provided by X and you're free to use it however you feel fit, as long as the parent doesn't profit. [QUOTE="Ghost, post: 81628, member: 3"]Hello sorry i only read the beginning of your post. I wanted to ask you how i should go about switching our boxes when we barely have the money to keep the boxes active to switch all the files over? Shall i pull this money out of my ass ? I should pay more out of my pocket for arma 2 Servers i currently cannot log into because of internet issues. Arma 3 servers that when i try to get out i usually am trying for 10 mins to a hour to even fully load in the servers. Try to support a player Wait time aprx 10 mins-1 hour. I have real life responsibility's to deal with. Everyone does I get it. However see it from my side we have servers where everything is 90% free to enjoy. The only thing you can donate for is a loadout that when you spawn with it, you lose poptabs. Why would a player want this over a respect loadout that makes you fully equipped and doesnt cost poptabs. Where's all these donations? Thanks.....(apology for any grammatical errors)[/QUOTE] I explained what you guys could do within the bottom paragraph, you can cut your overall expenses to $356 by consolidating to a single box and ditching the TS license, sure its more than what's currently be raised but its certainly not in excess of $600 that you don't have. You currently have $287 raised and you've quite clearly later on pointed out you'll bail this community out so I think its time you considered scaling down on the hardware and decided to push it onto the single E5 2650v2 box which has enough processing power and memory to functionally run what you require, hell I can run 3 A3 servers off a damn E5 1650 and that's weak compared to the dual E5 2650v2's you guys have, that's 32 separate processing threads with a very reasonable core clock if you allow it to boost to 3.4ghz. I'm sorry for your problems but you've gotta look realistic here, its a shitshow regardless of how it looks but the hardware and software side of this community is excessively unreasonable, crying about it wrong do anything unless you actually decide to do something, I provided a solution to the problem of which can be considered, keeping with the expense of $1k/m isn't realistic and it needs to be cut back, I can tell you already I'm very certain a good few potential donators have been put off donating due to the scale of the demand from those expenses and the ones that do donate are pretty much your regulars who do it monthly, this can't and clearly hasn't, lasted. I've heard you and Gr8 can be stubborn but damn, this is a bad situation and I've tried to give you an option of what you can do, frankly I find its a little late for me to even be saying what you could do considering the costs are apparently due today but if it was me, I'd have done what I suggested last week back when it was clear the goal wouldn't be met and I can say I've been in a situation where I've overstepped my expenses when it comes to hardware/software expenses and I have done the hard choice of scaling back, I had to move a very successful site off an dual E5 4650 box back in 2014 because it couldn't meet its expenses, I had to scale down what I could provide to that community of that site because of it and it hurt, the SQL server got choked within the first few days because the hardware I moved it to couldn't handle the settings and it took me a week until I could get it stable and to round this all off, this was my personal server I moved it to so it hit everything else I provided which in turn hurt my expenses as well, but after the first month everything started to smooth out and now its sat where it currently is, granted nowhere near as popular as it was the year before, russians don't exactly take downtime well apparently and pretty much jumped ship but my point stands. Changes have to be made, I provided a valid suggestion, either take it to heart or don't, either way keeping up with the $1k/m demand isn't going to work. I'm sorry you're in this situation but you, the management have let it get to this state, bailing it out wont help it as much as the attitude of the US Government is inspiring to that concept, it doesn't work long term.